Monday, November 14, 2005

A very silly discussion

Sometimes it seems I'll do anything to ignore the call of Phd-writing. I've dipped my oar into this rather silly discussion at spanblather, which was prompted by the appearance on the blogosphere of the curious doctrine of 'dairying agrarian feminism'. If you are truly desperate you may just find the discussion diverting...


Blogger span said...

unfortunately it's not silly because AJ is serious, and it concerns me that there is someone out there who is as (willfully) ignorant about women. i am actually trying to challenge him but i am learning that he simply doesn't read the challenging bits. i was very disappointed in his response to my questions.

9:52 pm  
Blogger maps said...

It is a bit like banging one's head against a wall. I think that in general it's best not to polemicise with people as - why not use the word? - backward as AJ, though I'm obviously breaking my own rule! It's very rare that they'll change their mind as a result of an abstract intellectual discussion. They tend to be dragged forward by changes that start elsewhere.

I think better people to target would be those who had a mixture of reactionary and progressive beliefs. That way you can start with a point of agreement. One example of people like this I've had relatively productive discussions with are those who oppose Bush and the war in Iraq, but support having Kiwi troops in Afghanistan. Another interesting group is people who hate Brash but think Labour is fine. I must admit though that I find people like AJ and milkmaid interesting from a sort of sociological perspective. The way they've (re)constructed this set of beliefs from a mixture of old school Christianity and new age greeny stuff is quite fascinating, though not particularly cheering.

12:23 am  
Blogger KSmilkmaid said...

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7:09 am  
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7:15 am  
Blogger span said...

well that's a shame - i didn't get a chance to read milkmaid's comments in full, but from the little i scanned they seemed a) interesting and b) different from how AJ had portrayed her...

5:48 pm  
Blogger A. J. Chesswas said...

All I said in referring to Kansas was that hers was a blog of a woman who felt satisfied and fulfilled with country life. The difference between her and I is she doesn't necessarily believe it is for everyone, but at the same time admits that the doctrines of "feminism" and urbanisation have had a deceptive and destructive effect on society. But she didn't say the latter on this post, as she wishes to just live, and share the joy of her experience of the agrarian life, without preaching against anything.

10:15 pm  
Blogger KSmilkmaid said...

Now that I am not real, can I safely claim that it is for everyone!??!! The fallacy in arguing that it is for everyone would undermine the need for niche marketing. Next time we do this whole conspiracy we really need to think through the arguments a bit more. We were getting weak on this one.

5:35 pm  
Blogger span said...

what i find interesting is that you posted this, AJ, at the same time you were all supposedly at dinner... but maybe i've got the clocks confused.

10:47 pm  
Blogger Beau said...

I've met Allan.

I was hoping he wasn't real.

11:11 am  

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