Tuesday, July 25, 2017

Brash's ugly facebook

Karl du Fresne is upset at the left. The Wairarapa-based journalist has used his blog to link the recent anti-globalisation riots in Hamburg with the alleged ill-treatment of Don Brash here in New Zealand.
According to du Fresne, Brash and the Hamburg police are both victims of the 'self-righteous rage of the left'.

Brash is the frontman of Hobson's Pledge, a group set up last year to campaign against Maori seats in parliament, Treaty settlements, and all Treaty-based legislation. Hobson's Pledge can be seen as the successor to Treatygate, the campaign that John Ansell, another former Act Party personality, fronted back in 2012. Like Ansell, Brash has held public in country towns and placed expensive ads in the mass media. Like Ansell, he is struggling to win the public's attention. The audience for a widely advertised meeting in Rotorua was small and unenthusiastic.

In a recent post to facebook, Maori activist Joe Trinder described Hobson's Pledge as a 'hate group'. Karl du Fresne thinks such a description is outrageous. He argues that Hobson's Pledge was founded to 'promote the concept of equality before the law, regardless of ethnicity'. When he uses the term 'hate group' Trinder is trying, du Fresne complains, to put Hobson's Pledge on the 'same level as the Ku Klux Klan and the Nazi Party'. Du Fresne complains about some of the comments that appeared beneath Trinder's facebook post. Some commenters threatened Brash with violence; others suggested that Hobson's Pledge billboards should be torn down.

Karl du Fresne has obviously been paying careful attention to Joe Trinder's facebook posts, but I wonder whether he has visited the facebook page run by Hobson's Pledge. The page's anonymous administrators have made hundreds of posts, and attracted thousands of comments. If du Fresne scans some of the posts and comments, then he might find his belief that Hobson's Pledge stands for equality hard to sustain.
On  June the 11th Hobson's Pledge posted this image, which originally appeared on a facebook page called Southern African Memes. Like much of the material on Southern African Memes, the image is designed to call up fond of memories of the era of white minority rule in Rhodesia and South Africa, and to contrast the supposed golden age of apartheid with the present.

Between 1965 and 1979 Rhodesia's white community, which never numbered more than three hundred thousand, enjoyed political and economic power over more than six million blacks. Rhodesia's white regime barred blacks from voting and from most high-paying jobs, and restricted their ability to move about the country. Blacks and whites were forbidden from marrying and lived in separate neighbourhoods of the country's towns and cities. Cinemas had separate entrances for blacks and whites and restaurants had different rooms for diners with different skin colours.

Not surprisingly, Rhodesia's black majority protested the status quo, and in the 1970s waged a guerrilla war against their white masters. A deal brokered by Britain ended white minority rule, and in 1980 Robert Mugabe took power. The Rhodesian agricultural production that Hobson's Pledge celebrates was achieved with the help of indentured black labour. After the war began, the white regime deliberately kept grain and other foods from parts of the country where the guerrillas had most support, creating widespread malnutrition.

Robert Mugabe is a despot who has brought misery to many of his people. But Hobson's Pledge's suggestion that the white Rhodesia that preceded Mugabe era was somehow a pleasant place is fantastic. It is hard to see why an organisation dedicated to equality would seek to glorify a state based explicitly on racism.

The predecessor of Hobson's Pledge also seemed to have a soft spot for Rhodesia. The website of John Ansell's Treatygate campaign featured a long article by one of Ansell's supporters, the Dunedin anthroposophist Colin Rawle. Rawle's article insisted that Rhodesia 'was a success story by any yardstick', and lamented that it had been 'destroyed' by the same sinister forces that were advancing an 'anti-white' agenda in New Zealand.

When it hasn't been advertising white Rhodesia, the Hobson's Pledge facebook page has been promoting local white supremacists. Hobson's Pledge has offered a link to the website of Martin Doutre, the promoter of the theory that New Zealand was home thousands of years ago to a technologically advanced white civilisation that was later conquered by the ancestors of Maori. Doutre is a Holocaust denier and an admirer of the British neo-Nazi David Irving.

A couple of months ago the Northern Advocate ran a front page article about the supposed discovery of ancient Welsh skulls in the Northland countryside. The article credited Noel Hilliam with finding the skulls, and said that Hilliam was working with Martin Doutre and Kerry Bolton, the former secretary of the National Front and this country's most prolific neo-Nazi writer. Historians, northern kaumatua, and other journalists quickly pointed out that Hilliam has no academic training, and noted Doutre and Bolton's white supremacist views; the Northern Advocate dropped its article, and was later reprimanded by the Press Council for not checking Hilliam's weird claims before it published them.

The facebook page of Hobson's Pledge followed the controversy over the Northern Advocate's article closely, and repeatedly expressed outrage at the paper's critics. 'Where has freedom of speech gone?' the Hobson's Pledge page asked on July the 12th, after the Press Council had reprimanded the Northern Advocate.

It is curious that an organisation campaigning for equality would want to promote and defend the work of Martin Doutre, Kerry Bolton, and Noel Hilliam.
It is not only the posts at the Hobson's Pledge facebook page but the comments beneath them that make me sceptical about the group's commitment to equality. All too often these comments are schoolboyish expressions of racism toward Maori. This remark was made by Derrick Storey on June the 27th, in the aftermath of New Zealand's America's Cup victory:

The reason the America's Cup was so successful was because there were no Maori involved. Don't go and stuff it up by accommodating to their whims and tell them to piss off...There was a lot of Kiwi ingenuity, Blood, Sweat and Tears that went into winning the America's Cup and notice the overseas commentators referred to our team as the Kiwis or Team New Zealand. Not once did I hear the team referred to as Maoris or Team Maori. 

Derrick Storey hasn't been criticised for this comment or any of his other, similar comments by the administrators of the Hobson's Pledge facebook page. On the contrary, Hobson's Pledge has on occasion shared Storey's own facebook posts with its readers.

Karl du Fresne is right to criticise the commenters on Joe Trinder's facebook page who urged violence against Hobson's Pledge. Don Brash and his comrades have a right to free speech. But after looking at the self-righteous rage on Hobson's Pledge's facebook page, I can understand why Trinder has dubbed Don Brash's outfit a hate group.

[Posted by Scott Hamilton]

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It's a pity you get so much hash - as well as a comment by Vaughan, and it is good it is in Maori as that is what the right hate to see -- Scott. Otherwise (from the hash wanting to lend money etc) it is good to know about these fellows. Brash etc associated with neo-Nazis. Not surprising really. N.Z. remains a racist country. Nationalism is a kind of disease. After all it is really a fluke that someone is either "white" or some other or whether they were born here or China. In fact NZers...most of those white racists have a very easy life compared to those they critique, usually in absurd ways.

Mugabe. I read a book about him and he has two PhDs. He is very intelligent: there is a lot of lies and propaganda told about him by the right wing. It is the right wing and some misguided liberals who attack his integrity. Don't defend that lot. They are bitter as they do want the past back, the Empire restored. He studied while imprisoned. He was a key leader in freeing Kenya from the British Imperialists.

King Ansell started the National front. Is he related to the other Ansell? He is notorious for giving a Nazi salute at an RSA. He was beaten up. He turned up to take residence just down the road from where I am now about 20 years ago. Even then he attracted wrath.

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Nama saya Alfred Daniel Nehemia dari bali Indonesia, roti CEO Daniel Bakery, Pertama-tama saya akan mengatakan bahwa Tuhan harus memberkati Lady jane karena mengenalkan saya kepada perusahaan pinjaman yang jujur ​​dan halal sehingga saya benar-benar percaya bahwa Anda memberi tahu rekan kerja bahwa saya mempunyai Ide bagus untuk memulai bisnis sendiri karena mendapat pekerjaan tidak mudah jadi saya pergi ke bank untuk mendapatkan pinjaman (Rp800 juta) tapi mereka semua meminta uang muka sebesar jumlah pinjaman saya tapi satu-satunya properti yang saya miliki adalah motor. Sepeda, yang membuat saya merasa kecewa

Jadi saya mencari perusahaan pinjaman online tapi kebanyakan menipu dan menipu, saya hampir kehilangan harapan dan kepercayaan diri sampai saya membaca artikel tentang lady jane tapi saya tidak sempat menutup tapi membaca artikelnya jadi saya mencoba pencarian online lain yang disebut craigslist. org dimana saya melihat iklan perusahaan Dangote Loan jadi saya memutuskan untuk melamar dan menghubungi lady jane juga

Dangote Loan Company memberikan pinjaman dengan tingkat suku bunga 2% dan tidak kurang dari Rp20 juta

Saya mengikuti prosedur di sana, memberikan semua yang diminta, saya juga sangat takut, tapi untuk kemuliaan tuhan, doaku dijawab dan uang pinjaman saya ditransfer ke saya tanpa masalah.

jadi jangan buang waktu anda kontak Dangote perusahaan pinjaman Via dangotegrouploandepartment@gmail.com

Anda juga bisa mencari di google untuk informasi lebih lanjut, ini nyata dan sangat nyata atau hubungi saya juga melalui email di alfreddaniel324@gmail.com dan juga di BBM: 7AEA8FA5

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Saya sangat bersyukur kepada Ibu Iskandar Lestari karena telah memberi saya pinjaman sebesar Rp700.000.000,00 saya telah berhutang selama bertahun-tahun sehingga saya mencari pinjaman dengan sejarah kredit nol dan saya telah ke banyak rumah keuangan untuk meminta bantuan namun semua menolak saya karena rasio hutang saya yang tinggi dan sejarah kredit rendah yang saya cari di internet dan tidak pernah menyerah saya membaca dan belajar tentang ISKANDAR LESTARI LOAN FIRM di salah satu blog saya menghubungi Mrs Iskandar Lestari konsultan kredit via email:(iskandalestari.kreditpersatuan@gmail.com) dengan keyakinan bahwa pinjaman saya diberikan pada awal tahun 2017 dan harapan datang lagi, kemudian saya menyadari bahwa tidak semua perusahaan pinjaman di blog benar-benar palsu karena semua hautang finansial saya telah diselesaikan, sekarang saya memiliki nilai yang sangat besar dan usaha bisnis yang patut ditiru, saya tidak dapat mempertahankan ini untuk diri saya jadi saya harus memulai dengan membagikan kesaksian perubahan hidup ini yang dapat Anda hubungi Ibu Iskandar via email: (iskandalestari.kreditpersatuan@gmail.com)
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